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President Barack Obama : One year after inauguration, many believe our President to be a fraud.

Thu Feb 4, 2010 7:30 PM EST
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By Raymond Max

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Plugged in, or plugged out? you be the judge. In a recent scientific study it was concluded that we do not multitask as well as we believe we do..

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I find that comment to be indicative of a 24/7 society that has the attention span of a three month old puppy.

As I see it, our " modern" society is so "plugged in" that so called multitasking has eroded many citizens ability to discern the difference between a reasonable amount of time for change to effectively take place, and the instant gratification one experiences when sipping a well brewed cup of coffee.

There is nothing instantaneous, inherent in our Democratic political system. It is a balance of compromised give and take; a tumultuous process, time consuming, arduous.

To expect the Obama administration to turn the tide of U.S. / World relations, as well as stem the economic destruction wrought by years of over budgeted, under capitalized, pork laden legislature, is not only unrealistic, but unreasonable.

To point an accusatory finger at President Obama, while blaming his administration for the pain and suffering that has resulted from what is now being referred to as the " Lost Decade" is nonsense.

Perhaps it is time that we take a step back and consider the broader picture.

This fiscal debacle, that was created by ten years of " High Speculation" as well as so called irresponsible banking practice, may very well take more than a year to repair.

Our economy is broken. The world is dysfunctional. And " We the people" are beginning to show signs of cracking.

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Raymond Max

Last week I had my butt chewed by a politico that believed me to be over bearing, politically naive, while wearing rose colored glasses.

Most that read me, know that I keep a fairly open mind, usually willing to let the opposing sides voice their opinion.

Good enough. Above, you will find my opinion.

While I will be the first to acknowledge a certain urgency for some immediate change in the current economic/ political @!$%# storm that has embraced our nation, I being a reasonably intelligent/ logically, progressive human being, also realizes that those changes will, and do take time.

Your thought provoking comment is always welcome here.

R.Max

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 7:40 PM EST
XNihil0Zer0

It's funny to me that a lot of the people who criticize Obama for not having already fixed the economy, are the same people who pray to the ghost of Ronald Reagan. While it would certainly be difficult to describe the economy that Reagan inherited as good, unemployment didn't peak at 10.8% until almost 2 years after he took office.

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:01 PM EST
Mike Rupert

Obama enacted a plan that most every economist says helped keep this country from a full-blown depression. He's also fighting the TOUGHEST fight any president could ever take on: health care reform. I believe that he will put the "public option" back in a health care bill, and get in passed through reconciliation. When that gets done, you'll begin to see public opinion turn once again - and probably in time for November's elections.

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 1:48 AM EST
Raymond Max

Agreed.

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 2:45 AM EST
replytoj001

President Barack Obama : One year after inauguration, many believe our President to be a fraud.

Fraud? No.....not a fraud.

I would say inept, under-qualified, inexperienced, clueless, overwhelmed, thin-skinned, uable to reach home plate when he pitches, and a political who said he was ready from day one (1) and has shown he is not.

Fraud? No.

A person who ran on "Hope and Change" but has delivered nothing but great (ineffectual) speeches, a person who feels/believes he is still campaign mode, lecturing and teaching us, still blaming others, not being held accountable (except by Newsviners, talk radio, and some media outlets).

Fraud....no

replytoj001

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Sat Feb 6, 2010 2:32 PM EST
Reply
JaiAllen

The economy, according to the latest statistics , is in full rebound everywhere except for jobs, where gains aren't likely to happen EVER.

We have regained international respect, and mended fences with allies who had began to oppose the U.S. stance of , " we're the biggest kid on the block and we do what we please ".

I think too many expected miracles of one man , and as that one man does attempt to make change , he is thwarted by a movement that doesn't want change.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 8:35 PM EST
Raymond Max

Agreed..

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 10:23 PM EST
jcrowley

JaiAllen,

To what type of "change" are you referring? The kind of change Barack Obama talked about in his campaign speeches, perhaps? Think back to the speeches he gave - he never specified what kind of changes he wanted to make, only a bunch of pom-pom shaking and pep rallies, and everyone just fell into lock-step behind him.

Know your history and be very careful what you wish for.

  • 1 vote
#2.2 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 11:06 PM EST
XNihil0Zer0

he never specified what kind of changes he wanted to make

You must have missed the debates, here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-nNIEduEOw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkBqLBsu-o4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvdfO0lq4rQ

  • 5 votes
#2.3 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 11:19 PM EST
demmalition1

Post #2 is dead on, good job Jai Allen

    #2.4 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 1:17 PM EST
    Reply
    Chuck101

    Like you I believe positive economic change will come, I just do not believe it will come from this current administration. I will admit, I have bias towards our current president, not because he is a hard leftest but because of the actions he has taken over the past year.

    It seem like he has used ever economic crisis as an excuse to create new social bills, increases spending, increase government regulation which has done nothing but weaken the US dollar. Playing on the fears of Americans is downright low for any politician in my opinion.

    I am no longer open to hearing any talk about given Obama anymore time to adapt and make changes. He has failed to be transparent and a agent of change that he promised during his campaigning.

    I think Americans should view this as a wake up call that they cannot expect government to solve all of their problems. If Obama actions had any positive affect on the economy I would still be a bitter conservative but I would acknowledge his achievements.

    I know I will probably be insulted and called names by Liberals, but these our just my feelings on the matter and I know many other in my community and family that feel the same way.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#3 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 8:38 PM EST
    jcrowley

    Chuck,

    Very well said. Unfortunately, he is making changes, but because he is not making the changes everyone expected (handouts and free goodies) people think he has done nothing. He has done plenty - our country is quickly eroding into a socialist nation and Obama and his staff will not stop until they achieve their goals. This is the "fundamental change" he was talking about. Excellent response!

    • 3 votes
    #3.1 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 11:12 PM EST
    Uthaclena

    jcrowley

    our country is quickly eroding into a socialist nation

    Sigh... that silly "socialist" thing again, conflating an economic theory into totalitarian Big Brother government. A whole lot of ignorance talking.

    Why don't we try Corporate Government instead of Big Brother, where we'll all be happy serfs for our Monopolistic Masters? After all, unregulated Holy Capitalism is THE answer to every ill, isn't it?

    • 4 votes
    #3.2 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 11:33 PM EST
    jcrowley

    Uthaclena,

    Yes, as a matter fact, it is! Now you're starting to see the light! "That silly 'socialist' thing" is the typical attitude of a population shortly before they are thrust into a socialist or communist regime. I beg you to look at history and stop listening to the drone of a hard liberal media. For example: Just look at Venezuela. Just a few years ago, they had an economy very similar to ours, until Ugo Chavez was elected. He promised change and hope and all kinds of other little goodies to the people and they bought it, hook, line, and sinker. And now where are they? Venezuela is a communist country.

    Please, open your mind. At the very least, be a little suspicious of government... any government, right or left. It is our duty as American citizens to question our leaders. It's why we have the first ammendment.

    I will state something I said in another post: A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take everything you have.

    • 1 vote
    #3.3 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 5:52 PM EST
    XNihil0Zer0

    If Obama tries to amend the constitution to become president for life I'll stop thinking you're only being hysterical.

    • 3 votes
    #3.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:04 AM EST
    Raymond Max

    Great comment..

    • 2 votes
    #3.5 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 11:58 PM EST
    getreal-1501724

    chuck then how did you feel about g.w

    • 1 vote
    #3.6 - Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:01 PM EST
    Reply
    Michael F Shircliff

    Well said, articulate, and thank you, a joy to read.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 8:49 PM EST
    JaiAllen

    I think your premise that you will be insulted by liberals is a bit discriminatory. Not everyone disagrees with a person based upon their politices. You have a right to your views as does the next person. Personally , I see most of the intimidation coming from the " right " , with the either you're with us or you're against us , mantra , or " You can't be a Christian because you're not a Conservative ". It seems somewhat that you're looking to pick a fight with the comment " I know I will probably be called names by liberals " or trying to make a political statement with that , but the truth is most people just want intelligent debate and instead receive threats and slander.

    The generalizations abound as does the negativity. Deny it if you'd like , but I recall when Bush left office , Ford Motor Company had become a penny stock (2.05) as had all of the Big Three , Ford has quadrupled in price in just a years time.

    Don't give the President the credit, that's ok too. When 2012 comes and people are asked if they are better off, as the economy is in full rebound, that will be the issue , not the slander and denigration of a man.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#5 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 8:57 PM EST
    mike lonkouski

    Over Promise=Under Perform.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#6 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:01 PM EST
    knight-403465

    Mike

    Is that your opinion or fact?

    • 2 votes
    #6.1 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:46 PM EST
    Raymond Max

    Welcome Mike Lonkouski. It's my opinion that the ' Over promise" of the Obama campaign, created the largely disappointed constituency that has labeled Obama a failure.

    He has damaged his own reputation by raising the expectations of the general public to an unreasonable level. The campaign is many months behind us. And that is where it should be left. in the mean time. What is being accomplished today?

    Jaiallen has shared some of the high points with us.

    While it has certainly been proven that the President does not walk on water as many had hoped, I don't believe that he intentionally mislead the American people to capture the majority popular vote.

    • 4 votes
    #6.2 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 10:37 PM EST
    mike lonkouski

    I think it is very fair to say that many of the Obama voters had exceedingly high expectations as to how his election might affect their lives.

    When you have people thinking that "they won't have to worry about paying their mortgage, or putting gas in their car" you know expectations were absurd.

    That includes the many young, first time voters, that elected Obama.

    • 2 votes
    #6.3 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 8:28 PM EST
    ZeroX

    Obama made a promise a change in government. He lied! No more pork spending in bills being passed. Again he lied! He was going to reduce government spending. He still lied! Now Obama ask us to trust his words. In my opinion, he has yet to keep any of his promises, why should I trust him NOW.

    • 3 votes
    #6.4 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 9:15 PM EST
    Reply
    Jo Anne

    "many believe our President to be a fraud."
    Yes indeed. "many".

    • 4 votes
    Reply#7 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:13 PM EST
    Mac Torquil

    Only GOPers, birthers and tea baggers. I think he is doing just fine.

    • 8 votes
    #7.1 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:40 PM EST
    cnotebutbrokeDeleted
    Little Sure Shot

    Mac, ask your children, grand children, and maybe even your great grand children how "fine" he did when they are struggling to pay off his debt.

    • 1 vote
    #7.3 - Sat Feb 6, 2010 1:03 PM EST
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    Lampell

    I for one dont expect the govt to turn around the economy for me or anyone else. Now that we have gotten that one over with, lets talk about the President, Obama. Of course I dont except anything from a President vis turning around an economy. He doesnt have the power in the first place. That being said I dont think he is a fraud, but rather an empty suit. He spent the last 15 years planing to be President. Thats as far as his game plan was written, winning the Presidency. I believe that once that goal was acheived the script was gone, there was nothing left. At this point I dont think he has a clue. Fortunately for us as a country all of this doesnt matter since its Congress that writes the laws. Nothing against the President or his policies, whatever people think they might be. I dont think he has any policies other than winning elections.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#8 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:34 PM EST
    Raymond Max

    Long time no read Lampell. Bassed on your analogy of Obama's metamorphosis from Harvard law student to the Presidency, we should lay his election, and the outcome, good or bad, on the shoulders of the constituency that voted him into power.

    True; the Executive branch is limited by the constitution. A good thing.

    Policy? That remains to be seen.

      #8.1 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 10:48 PM EST
      Lampell

      we should lay his election, and the outcome, good or bad, on the shoulders of the constituency that voted him into power.

      Aside from those who think the past election was a mandate for the country to shift to the left, there are many who voted for a man simpley because A; He wasnt Bush, B: the economy was down the toilet. So what we have is a lot of people who dont really know what they voted for but rather what they voted against. To have policy that people agree with is difficult since not many know who they voted for in the first place:)

      Not to worry, the world and the U.S. will survive despite the best efforts of government to ruin things:)

      • 2 votes
      #8.2 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 1:29 AM EST
      Raymond Max

      True enough. If history is an indicator for future events, the U.S. will survive. we've been through tough Economic/ social adjustments in the past.

      Agrarian to Industrial revolution, for one.

      • 1 vote
      #8.3 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 2:52 AM EST
      getreal-1501724

      Lampell so you're saying this black man wouldn't have won had it not been for those reasons.....

        #8.4 - Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:14 PM EST
        Lampell

        Lampell so you're saying this black man wouldn't have won had it not been for those reasons.....

        Am I missing something? What has being black have anything to do with my post? The reasons I mentioned are pretty compelling. There are those who say that Scott Brown won simply because the opposition fielded a weak candidate. I submit that perhaps the current President also won because the opposition fielded a weak candidate.

          #8.5 - Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:53 AM EST
          Reply
          knight-403465

          I agree with the author about the instant communication thing 24/7. I challenge you to turn off you cell phone for two full days.

          The main thing I know is that I do not want to return to where Geo W. Bush and the Republicans took us. In his eight years, he with a Republican majority in Congress spend like drunken sailors. They waged wars of which one was a costly mistake in lives and money. I do not like the fact the the United States of America tortured people and spied on its own citizens. At the same time a $trillion dollar tax cut was given that was skewed to the wealthy. That tax cut is still in effect for the 2009 tax year. The meltdown happened and the tax cuts did nothing for jobs. The lower class and lower middle class have been scratching to get by for many years now. You cannot have a growing economy when so many are being ignored.

          IMO the economy has been hurting since before Bush took office. The top 1% of Americans since 1979 has seen their incomes go up.
          While the bottom 80 % (eighty percent) saw their incomes go down. Four out of every five persons in the USA since 1979 has slipped backwards. A disparity of wealth played a part in the Great Depression as did risky banking and stock market manipulation.
          http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html - see figure 5 well down the page.
          Many interesting articles here. Go to home page then under social change go to -"Leftist, Rightists, and Social Change" to read why left is left and right is right. Is the left really always "out in left field"?

          The attacks on President Obama are not justified many are downright un-patriotic. The meltdown and loss of jobs caused much panic and anxiety. The peoples attitude is understandable but irrational. Any president faces powerful forces in DC. I am very glad that President Obama is removing lobbyists from Federal Advisory Committees as he announced on Oct 5th, 2009. Corporations are the ones with power in Washington. We do not have true free enterprise now, it is corporate enterprise. If we do not get financial regulation reform our economy will have be headed toward worse recessions or a depression. "Credit Default Swaps" are still being traded on a the dark OTC derivatives market.
          www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/ -

          Abraham Lincoln said:
          "The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in time of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes.
          I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe".

          Benjamin Franklin:
          "Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety".

          • 5 votes
          Reply#9 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:39 PM EST
          mavrick03

          Knight

          Please go back and correct your error

          Bush did not have a republican majority all 8 years in office.

          Go back and look at the 107th congress which ran till 03 which had a dem majority at the start a republican one for a few months then back to dem.

          bush had 4 middel years of a republican controled congress.

          in 06 a dem majority was voted in.

          once again the puppy attention span is prevalent.

          Mav

          • 1 vote
          #9.1 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 7:45 AM EST
          Reply
          Mac Torquil

          Raymond - My America is doing okay not great. I'm in the DFW metroplex area where the recession has not been too bad and housing prices are holding up okay. Of course we never had the big run up in housing prices.

          Check out an article by bete noire about the far left carping. You might like it.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#10 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:43 PM EST
          RAS CARDO REGGAE FROM TRENCH-TOWN JAMAICA

          My late prophetic mother always said-" patience is a virtue, but too much can hurt you". She was right, as always. The wisdom of the age! Obama is the repairer of the breach, not a miracle worker. Look around you, is not the whole world in trouble?

          • 2 votes
          Reply#11 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 12:32 AM EST
          Raymond Max

          Well said Ras Cardo. Thanks for dropping in. Best to you..

            #11.1 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 2:55 AM EST
            Reply
            DEBEKI

            I think our President is doing just fine and I will continue to support him.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#12 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 8:12 AM EST
            cwyatt-989470

            Raymond,

            As you know, everything is a matter of perspective.

            I am a Christian-Conservative, that's who I am. Can a liberal and a person like me find common ground on some issues, half the issues, all issues - you get the picture. Our belief systems are fundamentally different, so one opposes the other.

            I regards to the President, the majority of the promises that he has kept only appeases the liberal minded, which consequently saddens conservatives. I do fault him for not doing enough to correct the American economy. I won't get into an argument about protectionism, though I believe this is what America needs to rebuild a proper tax-base.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#13 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 8:22 AM EST
            Raymond Max

            Welcome C. W. You're actually addressing an Isolationist that believes the " Third Worlding" of America was a result of Nafta among other trade treaty agreements implemented by Repubs as well as Dems.

            As far as Jesus goes? The "Rebel Rabi" would be shacking a fist as he preached on the mound about separation of Church and State.

            However, I will give you this much, America was found primarily by Christians booted out of Europe.

            I'm afraid for good and for bad, The U.S. has evolve into a muti ethnic/ cultural as well spiritial melting pot. We are the World..

            • 1 vote
            #13.1 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 12:51 PM EST
            getreal-1501724

            to those who liked bushes tax cuts that weren't paid for and is apart of our deficit some good that did for america i know you don't believe this man who was in office for only one year caused the record amount of job loss....

            • 1 vote
            #13.2 - Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:23 PM EST
            Raymond Max

            Flaming calmdown?

              #13.3 - Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:18 PM EST
              Reply
              Grace-580101

              Enough has been done to spur economic growth, the Tarp, the 700 billon stimulus and healthcare reform, but if the Republicans will have no incentives to agree to a compromise, then Democrats will otherwise pass legislation without them and everyone will be a loser.

              Our economy is not broken, economic growth comes in slow process with the test of time. Its the consumer
              confidence that will take steps to spur the growth and with the helped of the government.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#14 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 3:09 PM EST
              Raymond Max

              Hello Grace. " All" noted economist are in agreement that the basic fundamentals of the U.S. economy are eschew, it is in fact, most broken.

              I'm in agreement with you, that the stimulus has had a positive effect on stabilizing the economic indicators.

              As always, the lagging indicator " jobs" will take awhile to recover.

              And of-course, due to the outsourcing of manufacturing by corporate America, as well as technological change, some of those jobs will never return to our shores.

              The Obama administration is working on a proposal that will " Double ' exports in the next few years. If effective / that will be a step in the right direction.

              Thank you for your comment.

              • 1 vote
              #14.1 - Fri Feb 5, 2010 11:02 PM EST
              Reply
              Caryl S. Foster

              "There is nothing instantaneous, inherent in our Democratic political system. It is a balance of compromised give and take; a tumultuous process, time consuming, arduous."

              The current day political reality is that the unbalanced Repudiated Republican Party of No is defrauding the people of America by refusing to offer any compromise on any domestic bill even one that reflects in part what they say are their principal economic policies and fundamental political beliefs thus making the legislative process a seemingly never-ending of process of ineffective non-action resulting in nothing getting done for the benefit of America as a whole.

              The sooner it is realized by the President and the Democratic Party that the pursuit of bipartisanship in our current political environment is a one way street leading no where, the sooner they can both take the necessary political steps to put this country economically back on track

              • 2 votes
              Reply#15 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:15 AM EST
              Raymond Max

              Well writen Caryl. Agreed.

                #15.1 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:25 AM EST
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